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1998 Admissions: ACLU, Lambda Legal, and Gays Didn't Want 'Marriage' -- Constitutional Amendment Language 'Misleading'
By Andrew Walden @ 1:05 PM :: 4092 Views :: Family, Hawaii History

As is traditional for ruling elites in a democratic society, at their moment of victory over the people they quietly admit to the key deceptions used to manufacture consent.  It heightens their sense of superiority, like snorting a line of cocaine.  So here they are in today's news:

Gay Marriage Plaintiffs Already Separated by 1998, Admit Gays Doubted Need to Push for 'Marriage'

CB: ...The story perplexed me. I had nothing against homosexual couples, but I was thinking this is crazy. Why do they want to get married?

One of the lesbian applicants was Ninia Baehr, the daughter of Clara Jane “C.J.” Baehr, who was one of my favorite teachers at Punahou School. Ninia had gone to Punahou herself. She was named after a friend of mine. When we got to the Health Department, I asked Ninia, “Does C.J. know about this?” ––– thinking her mother would be mad. (Punahou elites)

Ninia said, “Yes, of course, C.J. knows. She introduced me to Genora. Genora Dancel was a 30 year-old television engineer who worked with Ninia’s mother at Hawaii Public Television.... (media elites)

Ninia told me I wasn’t the only one who was perplexed when they unsuccessfully applied for Hawaii marriage licenses. She said at the time many gays questioned the need to push for marriage.

(Yes, the campaign for gay 'marriage' re-shapes the public imagery of gays into something they aren't in order for utopian schemers occupying positions of cultural authority to use them as totems of political correctness to browbeat the people into changing the family unit into something it never has been before in the history of the human race.)

When the Health Department told Ninia and Genora and the other couples they would have to wait until the health director received legal advice about their marriage applications, they went to American Civil Liberties Union. Ninia said the Hawaii ACLU was sympathetic but refused to represent them. Lambda Legal Defense Fund, a gay legal rights organization, also turned them down. “No national group wanted to take the case, “ said Baehr. (Insert excuse here.)..

Hawaii voters adopted the amendment November 3, 1998. That reversed the plaintiffs’ earlier victory.  By the time the amendment was adopted, Ninia and Genora were separated....

Genora met another woman, Kathryn Dennis, an editor .... In 2006, Genora and Kathryn moved back to Honolulu....

Ninia has lived with another partner for more than a decade, Lori Hiris, an artist and filmmaker (professional activist with an interest in Eugenics pioneer Francis Galton). She hopes to marry Lori but (insert excuse here). Ninia is working as the deputy director of the American Civil Liberties Union of Montana ....

Another Gay Marriage Pioneer: Child molester back at work at Hawaii Legislature

read ... Elite Misanthropes

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1990: Lesbians Together only 6mos when they Decided to Sue for 'Marriage'

HNN: In December 1990, three same-sex couples walked into the State Health Department in Honolulu and applied for marriage licenses.  Ninia Baehr, then 30 years old, was one of them. 

"I was so excited 20-some years ago when I thought that Hawaii really was going to be the first to give same-sex couples really what we deserve, equality," said Baehr, who now lives in Montana. 

She had been with her partner Genora Dancel, 30, for six months and "we were deeply in love," Baehr said.  When they applied to get married in 1990, Baehr had recently moved back home to Hawaii from New York City, where she had worked at a rape crisis center.  She was taking chemistry classes and planned to go to medical school. 

read ...  About people who demand we be more serious about their relationship than they were

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Smug UHM Prof Admits Misleading Language Used to Pass 1998 Constitutional Amendment

HNN: "I was here in '98, and I thought it meant marriage between a man and a woman, and everyone who voted thought it meant the same thing, too," said McDermott.

McDermott's lawsuit says that's because of how the amendment was described in the voting instructions from the State Office of Elections in 1998. It said:

"A 'Yes' vote would add a new provision to the constitution that would give the legislature the power to reserve marriage to opposite sex couples only."

Andrea Freeman is an assistant professor at the University of Hawaii's William S. Richardson School of Law and teaches a course on constitutional law. She said the amendment is clear.

"The amendment clarified that the legislature could choose to reserve marriage only for opposite sex couples," she said. "But it definitely does not state that it is on the only thing it can do."

McDermott contends that according to settled law, the people's perception of the meaning of a constitutional vote carries precedence.

"What did the people understand they were voting on? Between a man and a woman only, because that's what they were told by the Office of Elections," said McDermott.

Does it matter what it said in the voting instructions?

"No, unfortunately (I am in a position to tell you) it doesn't (and you will bow to my 'authority')," said Freeman. "It sounds like it may have been misleading, but what they voted for, the text of the amendment, is clear."

Related: Lawsuit: Hawaii Constitution Forbids Legislature from Creating Gay Marriage

read ... We Tricked You stupid peasants and It Doesn't Matter Anymore, say the perpetrators


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